having seen many, many people leave the org over the years, i have to say that, when it comes to married couples, it's almost always the man who makes the first move to leave.
conversely, when it comes to being converted into the witnesses, more often than not it's the wife who joins up first.
although that wasn't the case with my own parents, my father became converted and my mother followed very reluctantly..
OrphanCrow,
However, in the context of this discussion, it is a less than desirable trait.
I realize that the context of this discussion pertains to authoritarian religions but I'm thinking about religiosity in general including liberal churches. They are more inclusive than other more conservative religions and do not have strict, oppressive rules (Think Unitarians).
having seen many, many people leave the org over the years, i have to say that, when it comes to married couples, it's almost always the man who makes the first move to leave.
conversely, when it comes to being converted into the witnesses, more often than not it's the wife who joins up first.
although that wasn't the case with my own parents, my father became converted and my mother followed very reluctantly..
OrphanCrow,
And by the way...it is sort of humorous to read the responses of men who project the standard stereotype of women "being more sensitive" and having emotional shortcomings, etc....
The underlying issue is not personality shortcomings of the female sex.
I don't consider a more sensitive nature, either in men or in women, to be a shortcoming.
so the wife and i were uninvited to another jw get together which we didn't want to go to anyways.
finally we find out that something on my facebook account is getting some people's in my old halls undies in a bunch.
so i was thinking of meeting with them to at least clear my wife's name and give them some much needed hell.
I tend to agree with those who say you should give them no power over you but I believe that applies to the elders and not the general congregation. You might perhaps crash the party with your wife just to start talking apostasese with them. Give them something to remember you by but don't bother with the elders; they are the real power brokers.
having seen many, many people leave the org over the years, i have to say that, when it comes to married couples, it's almost always the man who makes the first move to leave.
conversely, when it comes to being converted into the witnesses, more often than not it's the wife who joins up first.
although that wasn't the case with my own parents, my father became converted and my mother followed very reluctantly..
Ditto for xjwsrock.
It's known, according to studies, that women make up the majority of worshippers at all churches. Why exactly is not known but it most probably has to do with their psychological nature.
i was going to put this in my thread about pyramid schemes, but i thought it's discreet enough to warrant its own.
1) there are many faithful jws.
2) there are many men and women who could take control and fill the void if the watchtower collapses.
I can't quite see the Watchtower splinter as the International Bible Students did under Rutherford's iron fisted rule. Then again, I can't see a total collapse. More of a deflation; a shriveling up. Under Rutherfordism you had a fanatical hard core who reconstituted their numbers after a short while.
Nowadays, you simply have a demoralized body of wannabe Witnesses with a bunch of neurotic/psychotic needy persons. They're not likely to be the type that can reconstitute themselves.
one thing i've never understood is judicial committees.
yes, i understand it's held to see if elders should go through with the disfellowshipping process.
but why give them all the power?
I'm sure they can disfellowship you in absentia. I myself was not even invited to my judicial committee yet was disfellowshipped.
i stumbled across something the other day that made me sit up because it seemed to perfectly describe a feeling i experience from time to time that apparently isn't uncommon.. it's called autonomous sensory meridian response or "asmr" and is a kind of tingly feeling on/in your head.
you can read about it here:.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/autonomous_sensory_meridian_response.
rebelfighter,
It is an amazingly relaxing experience if done the right way. Stress is released and the head and body feels completely different. I am sure there is a name for this but I have no clue.
Some good Indica will do the same.
may have missed this somewhere, but if bethel not providing meals anymore , what is point of the farms?.
or are meals still provided with simple self service now, without the waiter service of decades?.
seem to recall uk farm disposed of years ago as it cheaper to purchase requirements rather than sustain farm and its workers, was that the case?.
If meals are not provided at Bethel then what do they do, brown bag from store bought food? Do Bethelites get an extra allowance for food purchase? Do they have a little refrigerator in their dorm for keeping food in?
i stumbled across something the other day that made me sit up because it seemed to perfectly describe a feeling i experience from time to time that apparently isn't uncommon.. it's called autonomous sensory meridian response or "asmr" and is a kind of tingly feeling on/in your head.
you can read about it here:.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/autonomous_sensory_meridian_response.
On occasion, in the middle of the night while fast asleep, I would sense a rippling sensation inside my head that did not feel unpleasant but still worried me though. I had some control over its onset but was afraid that it might have been something like a stroke so I decided to end it.
why were we ever a jw?
were we mad?
we must have been .... well, my excuse is that i knew nothing else.
OUTLAW,
